{"id":44311,"date":"2025-09-12T23:36:47","date_gmt":"2025-09-12T19:36:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/?p=44311"},"modified":"2025-09-12T23:36:47","modified_gmt":"2025-09-12T19:36:47","slug":"nuclear-war-between-india-and-pakistan-was-not-on-the-cards-a-s-dulat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/nuclear-war-between-india-and-pakistan-was-not-on-the-cards-a-s-dulat\/","title":{"rendered":"Nuclear war between India and Pakistan was not on the cards: A.S. Dulat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><u>London Letter<\/u><\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>By Shyam Bhatia<br \/>\nLondon correspondent of The Tribune (India)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Amarjit Singh Dulat, India\u2019s former spymaster, has dismissed claims that India\u2019s recent military push against Pakistan, codenamed Operation Sindoor, brought South Asia to the edge of nuclear war.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"44312\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/nuclear-war-between-india-and-pakistan-was-not-on-the-cards-a-s-dulat\/former-raw-chief-amarjit-singh-dulat-k\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Former-RAW-Chief-Amarjit-Singh-Dulat-K.jpg?fit=1200%2C672&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,672\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Former RAW Chief Amarjit Singh Dulat-K\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Former-RAW-Chief-Amarjit-Singh-Dulat-K.jpg?fit=640%2C358&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-44312\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Former-RAW-Chief-Amarjit-Singh-Dulat-K.jpg?resize=640%2C358&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"358\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Former-RAW-Chief-Amarjit-Singh-Dulat-K.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Former-RAW-Chief-Amarjit-Singh-Dulat-K.jpg?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Former-RAW-Chief-Amarjit-Singh-Dulat-K.jpg?resize=1024%2C573&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Former-RAW-Chief-Amarjit-Singh-Dulat-K.jpg?resize=768%2C430&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/span><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong>Former RAW Chief Amarjit Singh Dulat. Pic &#8211; The Raisina Hills<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">During a recent visit to New Delhi, when I was invited to a meal of whisky and kebabs at his home in the exclusive suburb of Defence Colony, the urbane former chief of India\u2019s external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), was blunt.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cTotal rubbish,\u201d Dulat said of the nuclear scare. \u201cThat will never happen. It makes no sense. This last skirmish &#8212; why did it last three days only? Which India-Pakistan conflict has lasted more than ten days? No matter what Pakistan says.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">For one of India\u2019s most seasoned intelligence professionals, the idea that Sindoor crossed nuclear thresholds is a myth, recycled more in drawing rooms and diplomatic cables than in real decision-making. \u201cWe are never going to do it,\u201d he repeated. \u201cSome Pakistani leaders can be erratic, but unlikely; their military would surely visualise the results.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Born in Sialkot \u2014 the Punjabi city that went to Pakistan at Partition \u2014 Dulat joined the Indian Police Service in 1965 before moving to the Intelligence Bureau, where his immersion in Kashmir set the course of his career. By 1988, he was inducted into RAW. A decade later he became its chief under Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, later serving as Adviser on Kashmir in the Prime Minister\u2019s Office.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">RAW itself had been created in 1968 by R.N. Kao and Shankaran Nair, both of whom played decisive roles in the Bangladesh Liberation War.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"44313\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/nuclear-war-between-india-and-pakistan-was-not-on-the-cards-a-s-dulat\/operation-sindoor\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Operation-Sindoor.jpg?fit=1200%2C674&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,674\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Operation Sindoor\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Operation-Sindoor.jpg?fit=640%2C359&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-44313\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Operation-Sindoor.jpg?resize=640%2C359&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"359\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Operation-Sindoor.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Operation-Sindoor.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Operation-Sindoor.jpg?resize=1024%2C575&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Operation-Sindoor.jpg?resize=768%2C431&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/span><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong>Operation Sindoor, May 2025. Pic &#8211; India Today<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Over the years, Dulat built a reputation as a spymaster who believed in dialogue as much as surveillance, cultivating contacts with militants and moderates alike.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">His newly published memoir, <em>&#8216;The Chief Minister and the Spy&#8217;<\/em>, blends past experiences with current reflections on Sindoor, Pahalgam and the dilemmas of Indian statecraft. The title refers to his unusual relationship with Farooq Abdullah, the then Chief Minister of Jammu and Kashmir.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cFarooq keeps saying, \u2018There is no option but to engage with Pakistan, otherwise terrorism will not go away. Listen to this great man,\u2019\u201d Dulat noted.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">India launched Operation Sindoor in May 2025, less than two weeks after militants massacred Hindu tourists in the Kashmiri resort town of Pahalgam, killing 26 civilians and wounding nearly 20. India hit back, targeting ISI\u2019s militant training camps across the border, eliminating more than 100 terrorists \u2013 possibly as many as 500, according to some Pakistani media reports. For Mauritian readers, that may be the equivalent of wiping out the population of an entire coastal village in a matter of days.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cIf you ask me, after Pahalgam the Prime Minister had to do something,\u201d Dulat recalled. \u201cIt was on the cards.\u201d For him, the tragedy briefly united the Valley: \u201cFor the first time the Kashmiris as a whole came out in support of Delhi. Only time I\u2019ve seen this happen. But when there was no follow-up, that support started to shift.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dulat warned against mistaking coercion for strategy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cYes, from time-to-time muscular policy helps, but that cannot be the long-term policy,\u201d he said. His strongest praise was reserved for Vajpayee: \u201cWhen Vajpayee went to Kashmir in April 2003, he said, \u2018I have held out my hand of friendship twice to Pakistan and I\u2019ve been let down twice\u2026 but I have not given up hope.\u2019 The Kashmiris went delirious with joy.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">That spirit, he lamented, has not been sustained. \u201cWhen PM Modi came to power, the Kashmiris were happy. They hoped Delhi would pursue Vajpayee\u2019s policy.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">On Pakistan itself, Dulat was scathing: \u201cWhat is Pakistan? It\u2019s a small country. What is Lahore? They say it\u2019s like Delhi \u2014 actually it\u2019s just a more beautiful version of Amritsar. Pakistan is a small, tiny place.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dulat\u2019s verdict resonates beyond India because of his role in managing fears of escalation during the Kargil aftermath. As RAW chief, he created a discreet backchannel with Sir Richard Dearlove, then head of Britain\u2019s MI6, at a time when Washington and London most feared miscalculation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">He also recalled the \u201cfriendly ties\u201d of Maurice Oldfield, MI6\u2019s legendary 1970s chief, whose discreet contacts with Delhi symbolised an earlier phase of Indo-British intelligence cooperation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dulat\u2019s blunt conclusion on Sindoor \u2014 and on nuclear fears more broadly \u2014 is that the panic belongs more to \u201cdrawing rooms and diplomatic cables\u201d than to the real calculus of those who have actually run the region\u2019s spy agencies.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">As he promotes <em>&#8216;The Chief Minister and the Spy&#8217;<\/em>, Dulat is determined to push back against both alarmism and complacency. His message is twofold: nuclear red lines are rhetorical rather than real, and lasting peace in Kashmir requires imagination as much as muscle.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cA muscular state can bludgeon,\u201d he said, leaning back in his chair. \u201cBut lasting peace requires imagination.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong><em>Shyam Bhatia is the London correspondent of The Tribune (India)<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><u>History<\/u><\/span><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Robert Clive\u2019s Billions: The Will that Reveals Empire\u2019s Spoils<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The will of Robert Clive, the East India Company adventurer remembered in history as \u201cClive of India,\u201d has been located in the British National Archives. It is a document that throws fresh light on the extraordinary fortune accumulated by one man who played a decisive role in Britain\u2019s colonisation of India and in the transfer of staggering wealth from Bengal to London.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Clive died by his own hand in 1774 at the age of just 49. The will, drafted only months before, details not only his household possessions but also his lands, investments, cash, and legacies to family and friends. Reading it today is to confront in black and white the immense rewards of conquest and plunder.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Among the items listed are annuities and bequests of tens of thousands of pounds to relatives and retainers, alongside landed estates across Shropshire. The sums are difficult to grasp until translated into present-day terms. Using a measure of relative economic power, Clive\u2019s wealth has been estimated at between \u00a37\u20139 billion today \u2014 the equivalent of roughly \u20a8400\u2013500 billion in Mauritian currency. That places him in the league of modern tycoons, centuries before the concept of billionaires existed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">One passage in the will specifies bequests of \u00a320,000, another mentions \u00a315,000, and others \u00a3500 or \u00a31,000 each \u2014 amounts that in today\u2019s terms run into tens of millions. In rupees, \u20a81.2 billion here, \u20a8900 million there, given almost casually to younger relatives, siblings, an loyal staff. For comparison, the average annual wage for a worker in Bengal at the time was little more than a few pounds.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The scale of these riches underscores the nature of what Clive took home from India after the Battle of Plassey in 1757 and the subsequent control of Bengal\u2019s revenues by the East India Company. It was the first decisive foothold of British power in India, and Clive\u2019s personal share of the spoils shocked even his contemporaries. He was impeached in Parliament, accused of corruption and extortion, though ultimately acquitted. Still, Samuel Johnson\u2019s famous remark that Clive \u201csat a tyrant over the lives and fortunes of a whole people\u201d has echoed down the centuries.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The will also humanises him in unexpected ways. Clive leaves instructions for mourning rings to be distributed to friends and for care to be taken of his servants. Yet these touches of sentiment are dwarfed by the colossal fortune at his disposal \u2014 a fortune wrung from India\u2019s villages, from its merchants, and from the collapsing Mughal system that the Company so ruthlessly replaced.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">For Mauritius, with its own layered history of French and then British colonial rule, the will of Clive is a reminder of how empire was built on the extraction of wealth overseas. The riches that filled the estates of men like Clive set patterns that still resonate: the funding of stately homes, the endowments of institutions, and the quiet accumulation of intergenerational privilege in Britain.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The rediscovery of this will does not change what is already known about Clive\u2019s role in history. But it gives the most intimate glimpse yet of how conquest translated into personal fortune \u2014 line by line, legacy by legacy, pound by pound. At the time of his death, Clive was the richest man in England. In today\u2019s terms, his billions would eclipse most of the great fortunes of Mauritius itself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">That is the enduring lesson of this document: empire was not an abstract project of flags and frontiers. It was, at its core, about money \u2014 money that left India and never returned.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong><em>Shyam Bhatia is the London correspondent of The Tribune (India)<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993300;\">Mauritius Times ePaper Friday 12 September 2025<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>London Letter<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":470,"featured_media":44312,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[19379],"tags":[55983,39049,55985,165,1829,36,10573,44558,52899,41438,1828,55987,55986,54819,55984,51919,17929,28827],"class_list":["post-44311","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-opinion","tag-a-s-dulat","tag-dialogue","tag-farooq-abdullah","tag-india","tag-kashmir","tag-mauritius-times","tag-modi","tag-nuclear","tag-operation-sindoor","tag-pahalgam","tag-pakistan","tag-raw","tag-research-and-analysis-wing","tag-shyam-bhatia","tag-spymaster","tag-strategy","tag-vajpayee","tag-war"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Former-RAW-Chief-Amarjit-Singh-Dulat-K.jpg?fit=1200%2C672&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8QzSF-bwH","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44311","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/470"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44311"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44311\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":44315,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44311\/revisions\/44315"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/44312"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44311"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44311"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44311"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}