{"id":33280,"date":"2021-11-12T08:25:47","date_gmt":"2021-11-12T04:25:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/?p=33280"},"modified":"2021-11-12T08:25:47","modified_gmt":"2021-11-12T04:25:47","slug":"two-worlds-talked-past-each-other-or-never-even-met","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/two-worlds-talked-past-each-other-or-never-even-met\/","title":{"rendered":"Two worlds talked past each other \u2013 or never even met"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"11847\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/what-happens-to-your-facebook-account-and-your-email-messages-when-you-die\/the-conversation\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/The-Conversation-e1535448713758.jpg?fit=400%2C41&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"400,41\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"The Conversation\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/The-Conversation-e1535448713758.jpg?fit=640%2C65&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-11847 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/The-Conversation-e1535448713758.jpg?resize=185%2C19&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"185\" height=\"19\" \/><\/em><\/span><\/h4>\n<h4><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em>At COP26 in Glasgow everyone was committed to saving the planet, but there were highly divergent views about how to do it<\/em><\/span><!--more--><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"33281\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/two-worlds-talked-past-each-other-or-never-even-met\/cop\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Cop.jpg?fit=1200%2C591&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,591\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cop\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Cop.jpg?fit=640%2C315&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-33281\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Cop.jpg?resize=640%2C315&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"315\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Cop.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Cop.jpg?resize=300%2C148&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Cop.jpg?resize=1024%2C504&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Cop.jpg?resize=768%2C378&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">Delegates arrive at the COP26 climate summit on November 4, 2021 in Glasgow, Scotland.\u00a0<span class=\"attribution\"><span class=\"source\">Photo by Christopher Furlong\/Getty Images<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">At the 2021 UN climate change conference in Glasgow, moving between the corporate slickness of the official \u201cBlue Zone\u201d (a UN-managed space which hosts the negotiations) and the wider fringe was quite a disconcerting experience for me. These were two different worlds. Everyone was committed to saving the planet, but there were highly diverging views about how to do it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">A welter of announcements on everything from coal to methane to forests dominated the opening days. Large numbers were discussed and ambitious targets were set. The bottom line was keeping alive the Paris agreement to pursue efforts to limit global warming to 1.5\u00b0C, while assuring a \u2018transition\u2019 to a low-carbon future.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The contradictions were all too apparent at this year\u2019s conference, known as COP26. The hired exhibition spaces in the conference centre were hosted by fossil fuel polluting countries and sponsored by large corporations. Corporate spin, also known as greenwash, abounded. There were a few African delegations with their own space and a vanishingly few civil society voices in the main venue.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Meanwhile, the discourse was very different in parallel fora. Here the talk was of inequality, climate justice and reparations. The focus was on radical transformations of systems of production and consumption. Many were critical of business-led and market-based solutions to climate change.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There was passion, commitment and a real sense of anger and frustration about the main conference. Huge suspicion around the corporate takeover of the climate agenda swirled, with much commentary on the double standards of the UK hosts, still proposing a new coalmine and oilfield as part of a so-called \u2018transition\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Unlike a decade ago, there was no climate scepticism on show. But how to address the underlying causes of climate change in capitalism remains the big, unaddressed challenge.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Pastoralists\u2019 perspectives<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">As a researcher working on pastoralism as part of a European Research Council funded project, I was at the COP together with a delegation of pastoralists from different parts of the world, all linked to the World Alliance for Mobile Indigenous Pastoralist Peoples. We were definitely on the fringe of the fringe.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We hosted a photo exhibition exploring pastoralists\u2019 own perceptions of climate change and uncertainty from across the world. We engaged in a dialogue with Scottish farmers and food groups, focusing on the future of livestock production under climate change. And our \u2018sheep for the climate\u2019 action brought a group together to discuss why livestock are not always bad for the planet, together with some fine rare breed sheep.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">When I managed to find a few events in the Blue Zone (not an easy task) relating to our research, they were mostly extremely disappointing. There were parallel conversations going on. If climate change is genuinely a shared challenge for all of humanity, dialogue between different viewpoints is vital.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Within the main conference, there was much talk about trees and \u2018nature-based solutions\u2019 across multiple sessions, for instance. The mainstream media hailed the agreement on deforestation, but a significant part of this simply replicates the failed programmes of the past. Under such programmes, forest protection in the global south is used as carbon offsets for large polluting companies and rich, consuming publics in the north.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The huge ecosystem restoration efforts being proposed potentially cause real problems for pastoralists. This is because large areas of open rangelands are earmarked for tree planting and biodiversity protection through exclusion. These so-called nature-based solutions are frequently new forms of colonialism, opening the gates to \u2018green grabbing\u2019, where land and resources are appropriated in the name of environmental conservation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Methane was also a hot topic. The huge reductions in emissions proposed under the Global Methane Pledge have major implications for livestock production. Yet a session I attended was obsessed only with technical solutions -\u2013 feed additives, methane-reducing inhibitors and vaccines, seaweed supplements, even face masks for cows.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Once again, livestock systems were lumped together, without differentiating between highly polluting industrial systems and more climate-friendly extensive systems, such as African pastoralism. Indeed, many of the solutions proposed are already being practised in extensive grazing systems. The problem I guess is that these practices could not be patented and sold by agribusinesses.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Climate and capitalism<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">So how do these two worlds intersect? Everyone is keen on nature, no-one wants catastrophic climate change, but why are the solutions so divergent? At root, the two camps (and many in between) have different views on the role of capitalism in climate change.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">For those in the Blue Zone, a long-term shift from reliance on fossil fuels is (largely) accepted. But capitalism in its new green guise, many argue, can save the day through technology investment and market mechanisms \u2013 and notably through the plethora of offsetting schemes that make up the net-zero plans.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">By contrast, critical civil society and youth voices argue that capitalism is the root cause of the problem, together with its handmaiden colonialism. The only solution therefore is to overhaul capitalism and dismantle unequal global power relations. But how, through what alliances?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In a recent paper \u2013- climate change and agrarian struggles \u2013 we explored the challenges of \u2018eroding capitalism\u2019 to create structural transformation and climate justice. However, in Glasgow I missed these crucial, political debates about ways forward. Are new styles of multilateral negotiation possible? Can genuine inclusion occur, going beyond the performance of participation where an \u2018indigenous\u2019 person or \u2018community\u2019 leader is co-opted? Can a true dialogue emerge about our common future?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I of course had very limited exposure to the thousands of simultaneous events. But my sense was that there was little meaningful interchange between different positions. Two worlds talked past each other or \u2013 because of restricted access, problems with visas and the high costs of attending \u2013- never even met.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong>Ian Scoones<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">Professorial Fellow, Institute of Development Studies<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008080;\">* Published in print edition on 12 November 2021<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At COP26 in Glasgow everyone was committed to saving the planet, but there were highly divergent views about how to do it<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":139,"featured_media":33281,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[8348],"tags":[30640,1360,29342,30641,30638,30639,15275],"class_list":["post-33280","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-the-conversation","tag-carbon-offset","tag-climate-change","tag-cop26","tag-global-methane-pledge","tag-greenwash","tag-net-zero-pledges","tag-un-paris-agreement"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Cop.jpg?fit=1200%2C591&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8QzSF-8EM","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33280","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/139"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=33280"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33280\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/33281"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=33280"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=33280"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mauritiustimes.com\/mt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=33280"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}